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[JuntaJoe]

Ok, I've been putting this off for a while. When LS shut down I lost my pile of threads on how I would re-organize the military for the 21st century.

Then Bush created that cumbersome Department of Homeland Defense that stole some of my ideas and piled a few more in that don't fit well.

Well, it's time I got back on the horse and rewrote it all.

I need to study up on all the HD sub-departments first and try to untangle it. This way Rumsfeld has something coherent to read when the NSA computers tag this site for nailing too many key words in the search algorithm. :lol:


This section will be replaced with a coherent introduction and synopsis when I'm done and I'm adding a bunch of follow-on posts to hold the subsections.

So pardon the mess while I complete this. But you can comment as it's being constructed.

[JuntaJoe]

The Army


What a well-fed stepchild this service has become. It tries to be everything to every situation. And yet it actually needs several more assets to be effective. That said, it is filled with bloat that needs real triage to fix.

What the Army needs to become is very much like the modern US Marines. A well integrated service with a clear defined role.

The perennial defined role for an army is to take and hold large sections of real estate.

This role should be paramount in the modernization of the Army.

Right now the Army has several dozen large unit types. Many of which are not involved with taking and holding real estate.

You have Airborne, Rangers, Green Berets, Delta Force, and many other "elite" units that have little to do with grabbing large swaths of land.

They would go away. I can hear the howling already, but I'll be irritating half the entire American armed services by the time I'm done anyway.


The Army needs these types of units configurations:

Mechanized mobile forces
Air Cavalry mobile forces
Urban Warfare forces
Static occupation forces
Airwing

The first two unit configurations are merely two ways to achieve a goal using one of two known strike methods. Mechanized forces take the acreage through swift overrunning of the ground from point A to B. The Air Cavalry rushes to an insertion area and spreads out from a fixed point in all directions. In both cases, these troops carry themselves and heavy firepower to simply push the enemy back and retain the ability to manouver should the enemy flank or counterattack. Both methods are needed because terrain dictates how a large force can attain a large objective.

Next up is the Urban Warfare forces. Gaining large amounts of acreage is a short period requires bypassing strong points and logistic trains of the enemy. Hardened pockets will be cut off, but can take time to wither given their built-up preparations. So you need a sizeable force that can enter close areas on foot and take small bites of the enemy without suffering extensive losses. In this configuration, the foot soldier is the key. Every grunt must have a multitude of tools and tactics at their disposal. Junior non-coms must be able to call in heavy support fire from artillery and airpower to decimate the opponent right in front of the small unit so it proceed forward in relative safety. I would also highly recommend using robotic tools to force the in initial breaches when it is not feasible to use large strikes from the arty or planes. Training is paramount in these troops. Urban fighting skills should be second nature. It will also require shock troop mentality like the Marines use. The squad corporal sees a forified emplacement, radios an arty strike within seconds and rushes the smoking ruin with speed and skill while the enemy is off balance. There should be no 4 or 5 stop chain simply to get an A10 to wax a building before rushing it. Empower the NCO's and trust them. America uses well trained troops, not rush trained conscripts. So limiting a small unit leader is wasting all of that excellent training.

Next up is the Static forces. These are your garrison and occupation forces after you seize your objectives. Historically, these were the lowest trained and lowest morale forces in an army. They also were the cause of hundreds of rebellions in occupied lands over the millenia. We need to re-examine the concept and specialize these troops. Military police, enterpretuer, and psy-ops training needs to become this group's bread and butter. Public relations, citizen safety, protection of restoration NGO's, and direct public assistance need to be part of the training regimen. After the gunmen wipe out the enemy, there is a period where the indiginous survivors are trying to rebuild their devastated world. If the occupiers are simply benevolent helpers without an itchy trigger or warlike bravado then the populace will respond well to the occupation force. These troops become the defacto civil and security sevice that allows populations to rebuild their lives and allows us to end our commitments sooner. The goal of a successful occupier is to remain in place until stability is achieved and not a second longer. The bonus of creating such a service is that as these troops retire there will be a large section of well trained individuals able to enroll in stateside law enforcement units. America has a severe shortage of available and quality police trained personnel.

Last up is the Airwing. The Air Force needs to return ground attack aircraft to the ground services. At present, the Army has almost no fixed wing attack aircraft. Fighter bombers, attack helicopters, transport helicopters, fixed wing recon planes, recon drones, attack drones, and the A10 flying tanks need to be one radio call away from low ranking personnel. The Marines use this tactic to great advantage. Any Marine private can call in an arty or air strike. Junior and senior NCO's are the control mechanism to keep this ability from being abused. But many a Marine Lance Corporal has saved his unit from being overrun with a quality radio call that was answered in mere seconds. Your well trained Army Corporal should be given this well over due ability.


A short note about Mechanized forces. The Bradley was a fine idea when you envisioned great land wars. The Army needs to accept that this event will become rare. I'll never accept the day that main battle tanks be discarded until true robotic drone tanks become effective, but the "mini-tank" Bradleys do not serve the Army well. The Soviets employed quality APC that were tire mounted to great effectiveness and most armies of the world concur today. The move to the Fox vehicle needs to be rushed into service. The day of the Bradley and M113 general purpose tread driven vehicle has set for good.

Another mention needs to be made about the Hummer. It is the best Jeep ever envisioned. But it is not an armored car. We need to go back to the drawing board and make a real armored car for dangerous road patrol duty. Urban Assault and Static forces need this time tested platform returned to service. The Israelis and South African have been refining the concept for decades and we should get their help making the 21st century version.

Last up is the trusty M16. It has been undergoing radical changes over the last decade. Most new versions have terrific features. But there has been a recent trend to shorter barrels. The killing power has been severely affected as a result. We need to address this NOW! The XM8 (see "Goodbye M16" thread) is a ways off. So we need to put more long barrels in the hands of troops or switch to the new 6.8 mm round immediately. The soldier and his rifle is a deadly hallmark of American forces. We need to retain this supremacy.

[JuntaJoe]

The Navy.


I've always felt our modern navy is nothing more than a ramped up version of Teddy Roosevelt's gunboat diplomacy service. A bunch of big ships that scream "We're Here!" and have a bunch of firepower. It's what the Navy calls Force Projection.

Sure it's mighty, but barely useless outside the battle group's Area of Operations. A carrier battle group literally owns the section of the ocean it sits in. But you can steam around the air umbrella with impunity. The cost to run a carrier battle group is literally millions per day.

Whereas no country doubts we can put a nuke missile anywhere on earth if we choose to. Sure, we have long range land nukes, but it's the boomer subs with Tridents that everyone knows could pop up anywhere and nuke in retaliation even if our entire home continent is a smoking, glowing ruin. The boomers might not be everywhere, but their threat certainly is.

Why don't we make our entire naval threat like that? Anywhere we want with no advance notice.

So I would totally scrap the entire carrier group concept. A side bonus would be less tree hugger protesting to our ships. There are plenty of nations that simply don't permit our carriers to visit for recreation and replenishment because they object to the idea of a nuke powered carrier pulling up to the dock.


Currently our navy has 4 basic components: Carrier battle groups, Assault battle groups, brown water (lakes and rivers) patrols, and the logistic/escort ships.

I would carve and discard heavily from those groupings. The carrier groups would simply be chopped up for scrap metal. The assault groups would be moved to the Assault Forces. The brown water patrol units would go to the Coast Guard subgroup of the Home Guard. The logistic ships would go to the Logistics service. Only the escort destroyers would remain from all of those ships.

The Navy would still be tasked with escort duties around the world. This would remain as the entire "We're Here!" portion of the Navy. Escorts would supplement the normal escorts on the assault groups. Navy escorts would perform patrol duties in medium bodies of water, like the Red Sea. The escorts would protect our Logistic Service ships while traveling through risky waters. The escorts would be chiefly the current turbine driven Aegis destroyers. They are rather potent defense ships that could easily move to hot spots and bolster our allies' naval forces should they need assistance. And since their offensive capability is much lower than other larger ships there will be little objection to them showing up in foreign ports. There will also be small reserve of Aegis cruisers to form ad hoc battle groups with other nations in times of significant war. The rest of the Aegis cruisers will end up in the Assault Forces as the chief air umbrella and conventional cruise missile platforms.


Now I've reduced the Navy's tonnage by 70%. Even in the age of air transport, we still will need heavy firepower from the seas. So I'm looking to the submarine service to fill the gap. This will be the focal point of the new navy. Besides the current attack sub fleet, I want to build two new classes of boats to replace the aging boomer fleet.

First up is a modern version of the old boomer. The Arsenal Ship would be a much larger platform that would be stuffed with every type of missile in the American arsenal and in ridiculous quantities. Strategic nukes, tactical nukes, conventional cruise missiles, anti-ship, anti-air, area denial cluster missiles, fuel/air missile bombs, bunker busters, deep earth penetrators, coastal barrage mini-missiles, you name it. I want all of those and more. Let the rocket scientists and chemists go nuts inventing novel missile platforms. Then stuff thousands of missiles into a big fat submersible tub. When this baby surfaces then the mouth of hell opens up. The mere rumor of one of these in their ports should send any tin pot dictator into convulsions.

The second ship would be a submersible carrier. Yep, that's what I said. We could make them if we put our minds to it. A large portion of a modern surface carrier is tied to the pilots. This doubles the size of the plane. This results in more hanger space. Then this continues on through the ship. More space means more engine rooms and maintenance support. This means more warm bodies swabbing decks, making dinner, filling supply requisitions, etc. Then you need significant facilities to further ensure pilot safety in a hostile flying situation. A carrier landing is a dangerous event on a clear day, on calm seas, and at peace with your neighbors. Take the pilot out of the equation and you empty half of the ship.

While still a large ship the submersible carrier would launch remote piloted attack aircraft. The biggest danger to the pilots would be carpal tunnel syndrome while sitting at their battle computers. The carrier would have a water tight hanger that opens when surfaced. Admittedly this will not be a deep diving sub, but a couple hundred meters should protect it from attack and surveillance while on the move. The drone aircraft would be much smaller than the current Hornet attack jet. The drones would be a lot tougher too. With multiple redundancy avionics and a carbon fiber shell, it would out fly any piloted aircraft by an order of magnitude. Air supremacy would come in short order. Aircraft recovery represents the greatest hurdle, imo. Perhaps the inherent overstrength of the aircraft would permit sea landings with tug and winch recovery. Solve this recovery issue and the submersible carrier concept would float.


The two super subs would become the capital ships of the Navy. The current Los Angeles attack subs would become the new escort force. Their ability to show up anywhere without warning would turn "force projection" to a global concept in the same way our nuke capability is treated. We need not actually be in an area to invoke the threat. A simple statement by our leaders and the immediate threat exists to a rival country. They have no way to know if their shores have Arsenal and Subcarriers lurking ready to rise or if there's only a hungry trout out there. And should a team of these super subs surface then devastation is only minutes away.

[JuntaJoe]

Aerospace Force


Note the name change? The current Air Force is an outmoded concept. It was outmoded within a decade of its birth in the 1950's when we reached earth's orbit in the 1960's. We limit the current force to the airspace of our planet when we have military platforms that extend into the vacuum of space.

We also separately fund NASA as a civilian agency when it is clearly under direction of the Air Force at any time that military service chooses to commandeer it. When launch dates are reduced in number, it is the military payloads that get launched while civilian payloads get sent back to the cue. And who always flies the NASA vehicles? A military officer.

I have no objection to that idea, but we need to call a spade a spade. If a government agency is under control by the military then it should be a military institution. Many may object to the militarizing of the civilian agency, but let's note a few facts. NASA is notoriously underfunded. The Air Force annual budget is an entire order of magnitude larger than NASA's. Combining the agencies would ensure adequate funding for space missions and facilities. We could still have a smaller civilian research agency to promote scientific endeavors. That agency would simply send their payloads to the Aerospace Force to launch into orbit. We also need to accept that the private sector needs to take the lead in the commercialization of space. The recent winning of the X Prize shows that the private sector is setting its fledgling foundations toward this goal. Quality of service will not be affected by this move. The military is quite capable of handling supremely complex systems. A B2 bomber is as complicated and costs as much as a Shuttle. The military is also capable of the multiple redundancy to ensure the safety of these missions. It was in the military that the ubiquitous pre-flight checklist was invented. Any military man who has ever logged out a Jeep for use knows that it's not as simple as signing the log and turning the key. The use of ANY military transportation requires a safety and performance test before leaving the lot.

That addition to the force will be matched with a subtraction as well. The vast majority of current Air Force platforms are strategic in nature. High altitude bombers, ICBMs, cruise missiles, etc. But the Air Force still retains the tactical planes that many forces, chiefly the Army, needs. If an Army unit needs an A10 strike or a Spectre gunship then they must contact their Air Force liason officer who relays the order to Air Force commanders, who in turn notify the pilot teams. This is a lengthy process when time is critical and lives are at stake. The Marines directly contact their pilots and the response is swift with no interservice complications or rivalry.

So I would remove all tactical units from the Aerospace force with the exception of air to air interceptor aircraft and give them to the other services that need their support. The interceptors would stay in order to protect the strategic assets from air attacks. But the Aerospace Force would not retain all interceptors. It would fall to the other services to fly the Combat Air Patrols needed to protect civilian and military ground areas. In essence, the Aerospace Force would lose most of its single seat aircraft, keeping just enough to protect those bombers and their own ground facilities.

The old Air Force motto of "Aim High" would finally become a reality. When America decides to field a true military spacecraft platform then there will be a military branch ready to fill the role of master of those vehicles. It will also be there when true sub-orbital transport craft become a reality.

[JuntaJoe]

Assault Forces


For far too long every branch of the current services has kept creating specialty forces and elite groups to cover too many contingencies. These forces are highly trained elites that sit isolated from other elite forces during most of their service. When they are rarely combined the differing systems and methods cause friction, rivalry, and logistical nightmares.

But their roles can be boiled down to two methods of operation. First is the breaching of an enemy territory and holding a base of operations so that large conventional forces can move their huge volume of assets into the enemy territory under relative protection. The second is using small elite groups to obtain unusual objectives. This latter category is quite vast in the potential objectives category.

In both cases, high levels of skill, superior morale, and powerful equipment are needed. Skill is derived from extensive training and actual battle experience. Superior morale is derived from confidence in personal skill and adaptive leadership. Powerful equipment is derived from a flexible logistics program capable of using any potential source for immediate delivery.

All of these small elite groups sitting in isolation from each other suffer severely in the skill and logistics category because their authority is so small. It is usually the high morale that allows these groups to adapt and overcome the training and logistics hurdles.

Combining these forces would allow large groups of elites to train together and significantly increase training quality. It would also allow them to become big enough to command a logistics program that enables in-house design and development of cutting edge equipment needed to fulfill their extremely difficult objectives. It would also remove the interservice rivaly and multiple systems confusion inherent in combined teams today.


Let me make one point clear on this plan. The reluctance of these forces and their parent forces would be extreme at all levels. Elite means special. Small groups feel special. Big services like the prestige these small groups bring. A good example is the Navy Seals. While far less than 1% of the Navy is a Seal trained member, this sub-branch garners a lot of prestige for the Navy and is a powerful recruiting tool. The new recruit may end up signing on as a truck mechanic, but was the poster of the Seal in battle gear that got him walking in the recruiter's door that day. So expect a shift like I'm talking about to be forced down the military's throat likely at gunpoint.

But we need it anyway. A combined Assault Force would be the military benchmark for the entire world for the next century, at least. Like the German SS or the ancient Myrmadons, a huge elite force can be more than just a military tool. Their presence alone could alter political events. No country wants the hell hounds unleashed upon them. A Sun Tsu maxim was that a true winner has won before the first shot is fired. An enemy facing the Assault Forces would understand the outcome in advance and perhaps rethink their goals.

So how to put some organization to this polyglot? Actually quite simple. There are three main categories. Breaching Forces, Special Operations, and Support.

Breaching Forces will be the second largest group. It will have 3 main groups based on entry methods. If all your military had to do was drive in through the main gate then breaching forces would be irrelevent. But coming in over the beach, over mountains, or airborne entry require precise tactics and timing in difficult and exposed conditions. The potential for rapid loss of life is prevalent when using these methods. Time and experience has shown that certain tactics and procedures limit this vulnerability.

Thus the three breaching force sub groups will be:

Mountain Troops
Marines
Airborne Troops

There will be the side benefit of being able to remove these forces as complete units from their parent branches. A Marine will still get to stay a Marine. The 82nd Airborne will not be carved up either. You get the idea. And I hope these sub-services will get the idea too and not create an impossible stink about it.


But the next category will be like pulling teeth. All special operations groups will be lumped together. Seals, Recon, LRRP, Rangers, SAR, Green Berets, Delta Force, Anglico, whatever. Everyone in the same command. Instead of living in different branches of service, the specialties will be defined at the unit level. The Green Berets will still train in creating resistance from indiginous forces. But they will no longer be Green Berets. Instead they will be the Indiginous Insurgency Battalion in the Special Operations Division. Master shooters from all the services would live together as the Sniper Brigade.

The Special Operations Division would live in a loose community sharing training and tactics, but could be subdivided and parceled out to temporary units as far down as the squad level to perform a specific operation. Combined teams could have the exact components needed to achieve unusual objectives. Need to swim in to a country by small boat and assassinate an enemy general? A few Seals, a few snipers, and a LRRP's man could be tossed together for a week to practice before going out to whack the general. That little group would today need input from the Army, Navy, and Marines to assemble a small 8 man group. That would take months of paperwork and training to make happen today. That's long time for the situation to change. A combined group from the Assault Forces could cut that mess down by an entire order of magnitude.


Last up is the Support Group for the Assault Forces. This will actually be quite huge as all the support elements needed by the Assault Forces will become organic. That means air attack, air transport, sea transport, logistics, R&D, artillery, many training bases, communications, ground transport, and even small amounts of armored forces. Support will be the largest group by far. But in the Special Forces tradition, all members of the Assault Forces will be battle trained. Need a cook that can fire a Squad Automatic Weapon? Now you know where to find him. The various current branches will be trimmed of the needed equipment needed to mobilize these forces all over the world in extremely short order. Assault carriers, battleships with 16 inch guns, Starlifter air troop transports, A10 Warthogs, Amphibious Tractors, whatever. The Assault Forces own everything they need short of strategic weapon systems. Anything used at the tactical or transport level will be an in-house operation.


Joining the Assault Forces will not be the easiest task. While you can join if you sign onto the 3 Breaching forces, all other jobs in both Support and Special Operations will be by invitation/draft from either the Breaching forces or the other reconfigured services. Want to be a Seal? Still need to join the Navy and learn diving, weapons, and small boatcraft first. Then you can apply or possibly be invited. Or you could join the Marines and transfer after you fulfill certain training requirements. Every service would have a watcher out at the shooting ranges looking for that special shooter who is far beyond his peers. The commitment to join the Assault Forces would be entirely voluntary on the individual's part. Naturally, the first parent sevice will be loathe to part with such a gifted individual. They may even sabotage a person's personnel record to keep them. There in lies the "draft". The Assault Forces can override the original service's efforts to keep the individual and simply transfer the individual by decree. The individual will then be asked if they wish to join while they are out of the way of jealous superiors. Should they choose not to join, they will be returned and will likely garner appreciation from their immediate superiors.


If well designed and implemented, the US Assault Forces will truly become the most dangerous troops on the planet. Resisting their advances will be suicide. Put them in a black uniform with black helicopters and let fear roll before them. Resistance is futile.

[JuntaJoe]

Home Guard

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Intelligence Corps

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Law Enforcement

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Foriegn Service

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Crisis Management

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Research and Logistics

GAO, DARPA

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Working Notes:







DHS Organization

History: Who Became Part of the Department?

The agencies slated to become part of the Department of Homeland Security will be housed in one of four major directorates: Border and Transportation Security, Emergency Preparedness and Response, Science and Technology, and Information Analysis and Infrastructure Protection.

The Border and Transportation Security directorate will bring the major border security and transportation operations under one roof, including:

* The U.S. Customs Service (Treasury)
* The Immigration and Naturalization Service (part) (Justice)
* The Federal Protective Service
* The Transportation Security Administration (Transportation)
* Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (Treasury)
* Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (part)(Agriculture)
* Office for Domestic Preparedness (Justice)

The Emergency Preparedness and Response directorate will oversee domestic disaster preparedness training and coordinate government disaster response. It will bring together:

* The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
* Strategic National Stockpile and the National Disaster Medical System (HHS)
* Nuclear Incident Response Team (Energy)
* Domestic Emergency Support Teams (Justice)
* National Domestic Preparedness Office (FBI)

The Science and Technology directorate will seek to utilize all scientific and technological advantages when securing the homeland. The following assets will be part of this effort:

* CBRN Countermeasures Programs (Energy)
* Environmental Measurements Laboratory (Energy)
* National BW Defense Analysis Center (Defense)
* Plum Island Animal Disease Center (Agriculture)

The Information Analysis and Infrastructure Protection directorate will analyze intelligence and information from other agencies (including the CIA, FBI, DIA and NSA) involving threats to homeland security and evaluate vulnerabilities in the nation's infrastructure. It will bring together:

* Federal Computer Incident Response Center (GSA)
* National Communications System (Defense)
* National Infrastructure Protection Center (FBI)
* Energy Security and Assurance Program (Energy)

The Secret Service and the Coast Guard will also be located in the Department of Homeland Security, remaining intact and reporting directly to the Secretary. In addition, the INS adjudications and benefits programs will report directly to the Deputy Secretary as the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.



DOJ Organization

# Antitrust Division
# Asset Forfeiture Program
# Attorney General
# Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives
# Bureau of Justice Assistance (OJP)
# Bureau of Justice Statistics (OJP)
# Civil Division
# Civil Rights Division
# Community Capacity Development Office (OJP) (includes Weed and Seed and American Indian and Alaska Native Affairs Desk)
# Community Oriented Policing Services - COPS
# Community Relations Service
# Criminal Division
# Diversion Control Program (DEA)
# Drug Enforcement Administration
# Environment and Natural Resources Division
# Executive Office for Immigration Review
# Executive Office for U.S. Attorneys
# Executive Office for U.S. Trustees
# Federal Bureau of Investigation
# Federal Bureau of Prisons
# Foreign Claims Settlement Commission of the United States
# Immigration and Naturalization Service - now part of the
Department of Homeland Security
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)
Bureau of Customs and Border Protection (BCBP)
Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
Office of Immigration Statistics
# INTERPOL -- U.S. National Central Bureau
# Justice Management Division
# National Criminal Justice Reference Service (OJP)
# National Drug Intelligence Center
# National Institute of Corrections (FBOP)
# National Institute of Justice (OJP)
# Office of the Associate Attorney General
# Office of the Attorney General
# Office of Attorney Recruitment and Management
# Office of the Chief Information Officer
# Office of the Deputy Attorney General
# Office of Dispute Resolution
# Office for Domestic Preparedness - now part of the
Department of Homeland Security
# Office of the Federal Detention Trustee
# Office of Information and Privacy
# Office of the Inspector General
# Office of Intelligence Policy and Review
# Office of Intergovernmental and Public Liaison
# Office of Justice Programs
# Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention (OJP)
# Office of Legal Counsel
# Office of Legal Policy
# Office of Legislative Affairs
# Office of the Ombudsperson
# Office of the Pardon Attorney
# Office of the Police Corps (OJP)
# Office of Professional Responsibility
# Office of Public Affairs
# Office of the Solicitor General
# Office of Tribal Justice
# Office for Victims of Crime (OJP)
# Office on Violence Against Women
# Professional Responsibility Advisory Office
# Tax Division
# U.S. Attorneys
# U.S. Marshals Service
# U.S. Parole Commission
# U.S. Trustee Program

[JuntaJoe]

Ok, with my Navy section done I'm opening up the thread for discussion.

It will take me perhaps weeks to finish it all, but you can comment on any completed section you wish to discuss.


And since this is a report type project I will welcome literary criticism as well.

[DrJoshuaFalken]

I have a better idea.

Get rid of the whole lot and let individuals and communities take care of themselves.


You seem to assume that the long list of government agencies will do their jobs, do them well, and not get in the way of other agencies whilst cooperating with them. And you seem to assume that America can afford all those bureaucracies. Furthermore a good deal are probably unconstitutional.

Most of them (if you simply must have them in order to continue to exist) can be combined or done away with entirely. The DEA for example doesn't need to exist because it is not the right of government or anyone else to tell you cannot poison yourself.

Quote: This way Rumsfeld has something coherent to read when the NSA computers tag this site for nailing too many key words in the search algorithm.

Doesn't it bother you that they think they should be doing that?

Also, why isn't there an agency to make sure the others do their job and do not violate the right of the citizens?

[JuntaJoe]

DrJoshuaFalken wrote: I have a better idea.

Get rid of the whole lot and let individuals and communities take care of themselves.

Fine sentiment, but the horse is out of the barn. With over a million Chinese under arms and the Jihadists trying to remake the Caliphate, we are pretty much stuck with a big military for the next century.


Quote: You seem to assume that the long list of government agencies will do their jobs, do them well, and not get in the way of other agencies whilst cooperating with them. And you seem to assume that America can afford all those bureaucracies. Furthermore a good deal are probably unconstitutional.

Most of them (if you simply must have them in order to continue to exist) can be combined or done away with entirely. The DEA for example doesn't need to exist because it is not the right of government or anyone else to tell you cannot poison yourself.

My listing of the agencies at the end was merely storage of notes for my project. You may have also noticed my comment in the beginning that I find the current military, law enforcement, and intelligence agency system to be inefficient and outmoded. My work here is to streamline, pare, and make those departments more effective.

Quote: Doesn't it bother you that they think they should be doing that?

Tell that to J. Edgar Hoover sometime.

Quote: Also, why isn't there an agency to make sure the others do their job and do not violate the right of the citizens?

I haven't got to that part yet. You might wish to actually talk about the completed sections instead of revising my work before I start it.

I have the Navy done. So talk about the Navy until I finish something else.

[DrJoshuaFalken]

Quote: My listing of the agencies at the end was merely storage of notes for my project. You may have also noticed my comment in the beginning that I find the current military, law enforcement, and intelligence agency system to be inefficient and outmoded. My work here is to streamline, pare, and make those departments more effective.

I see, but then again I practice snagging and dragging, a bad habit for the college bound. :P

Quote: Fine sentiment, but the horse is out of the barn. With over a million Chinese under arms and the Jihadists trying to remake the Caliphate, we are pretty much stuck with a big military for the next century.

Why would the Chinese attack their biggest customer?

Quote: Tell that to J. Edgar Hoover sometime.

I needed to pee anyway. :wink:

[JuntaJoe]

What? You think China would simply start a war directly?

When I was a Jarhead, I was shooting at "advisors" all the time. Soviets and Cubans. But we were never at war with them.

Then there was that little matter of 300,000 Chinese Freedom Volunteers in Korea in the 50's.

If a force of that power simply exists then we need an equivalent force.

Wars aren't fought with clean lines anymore.

The M.A.D. theory works. If we stay strong then China doesn't go invading Taiwan because it suits them. They don't decide to invade Thailand on the premise of hitting narco-trafficers and depose the government while they are conveniently in Bangkok.

Or take the case of Belorus. A huge country with modern Russian weapons and a beligerent disposition with their neighbors.

Or if Venezuela slips enough money to Brazil to bring capitalist Chile under heel and monopolize the world's copper supply while they are there. No Chile equals no full metal jacket bullets.

We need to remain the big dog on the block for a long time to come or democracy and free trade may not finally become global. Until every human adult can vote free then we need to keep loading rifles.



Yeah, you didn't fully get my Hoover comment did you? The point is that the government has been filling up files on Americans for a century now. The only secrecy you own comes from anonymity. Stay off their radar and your file stays thin.

You will see a totally new concept in my intelligence section. The power to spy anywhere at any time. Why tell them to restrain themselves when they never do? Instead I'll operate on the premise that the spy agencies can spy all they want, but they have to hold all that information in secret and that only the Justice Department can authorize a release to the military or law enforcement. In essence, they can collect all the secrets they want, but only a judge can tell the secrets. I'm also pulling the operations sections out of these agencies. What's let of the CIA can still run spys and collect intelligence, but they will no longer have an ability to act on that information. They will run it through a judge first and the Justice department will find the appropriate gunmen to act on it. No more of these CIA guys thinking they are Green Berets with big expense accounts and no Uniform Code of Military Justice to govern their actions. Snoop all they want, but the information goes into a safe place with responsible people making decisions on how to use that info.

[JuntaJoe]

The Aerospace Force section has been added today.

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The Army section has been added today.

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The Assault Forces has been added today.