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Georgie



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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:04 pm    Post subject: A case of missing letters  

I have trouble either sending or receiving e-mails. A friend tried sending me a message and I likewise did the same. We later met and asked each other why we didn't get the notes.We did type each other's e-mail numbers/letters in correctly.

I tried sending a message again, this time I received a reply. Everything went well for awhile until I stopped getting messages from my friend.


Does anyone else have this problem?
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s_stabeler



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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:13 pm    Post subject:  

er..........did your messasges go in your outbox? otherwise, i don't know................ this might be a moot point, butit ocvuld possibly be someone gaining acsess to your e-mail, or something. try a new e-mail adress, if that helps, thwen you know that it has been compromised.
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NibbyCat



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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject:  

Georgie, does one or both of you have an AOL (@aol.com), Compuserve (@cs.com) or Netscape (@netscape.net or @netscape.com) address? If so, that's the problem. For some reason, every now and then AOL and its affiliates get a wild hair and decide to blacklist everyone else, or just some other domains, including the other two.

If only one of you has the offending account, try getting a Yahoo, Excite, or gmail (I can send invites) account. And get a real ISP as soon as possible.
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:59 pm    Post subject:  

Yeah, a decent ISP like Earthlink or the phone companies along with Gmail and email problems melt away.

It's also good to have two addy's. One just for people you personally know and a general purpose one for everything else.

Use the one from the ISP for general purpose and use your Gmail for private communications.
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Georgie



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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject:  

Yes, my friend uses AOL and I use Yahoo.
Thanks, everyone. :D
I've just got a message from someone...
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Georgie



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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:25 pm    Post subject:  

I don't think so, S-Stabeler. But it is possible. My E-mail system is usually inactive as few ever send me messages. Only reply notifications from two forums.
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Georgie



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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:11 pm    Post subject:  

How does parent computer controls work? They say that e-mail monitoring is good until the kid is 18. How do you know that the age built in may be lower than it actually is?
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Brf



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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:19 pm    Post subject:  

What age built into what?
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject:  

Georgie, please rephrase the last question.
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NibbyCat



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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: They say that e-mail monitoring is good until the kid is 18. Who is "they"? Do you mean that the maker of whatever software is guaranteeing their product for however many years? If this is what is meant, then you'd have to check with the software manufacturer.

Or does it mean that some expert says parents should monitor their children's online activities, even when the kid is in high school? Thing is, at 18 a person is pretty much an adult, and the parents could be sued for privacy invasion if they monitor an adult child's activities. Until then, though, parents are responsible for a minor's actions.
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Georgie



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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:14 pm    Post subject:  

Sorry, I was just too hasty...
There are some ways for parents to monitor their children's e-mail and other things. The mail provider Yahoo offers a monitoring service for kids under 13.
Now how does the provider know whether you are 13 or 15? Do you need something like a certificate to prove that you even exist and are of a certain age?

Can you also sign up some character that does not even exist? How does things work in the e-mail world? I am not very knowledgable when it comes to computers, to say the least.
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:41 pm    Post subject:  

So you are just interested in the mechanics.

You have to be an adult to buy ISP service in your name. Sure, kids could find a way around this if they had a credit card, but generally that's an adult toy. So when the adult buys the pc and ISP service then they are the ones who instruct the ISP to filter certain users. The computer network usually has a command code to open the the controls for the filtering software. Thus, if you could locate the controls and find/figure out the password then you could change the filter settings.

Or you could ask your parents to do it. :wink:
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Brf



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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:21 am    Post subject:  

The way it works is, you have a primary account that is controlled by the parent. The parent can then setup sub-accounts for other family members. In my InsightBB account, for instance, I have one sub-account setup for my older daughter, and I am using the other 4 sub-accounts for myself.

I am guessing that in the Yahoo account, the parent would have a checkbox saying something like "Filter this sub-account". Yahoo, in that case, couldnt care less who is using that account, or the age of the user. It would be up to the parent to decide whether the account should be filtered or not.
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NibbyCat



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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:29 am    Post subject:  

There are always get-arounds, but remember that if you are found out, there will be repercussions.
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Georgie



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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:43 pm    Post subject:  

Thanks, I'll be, er, thinking things over.....
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject:  

Yep, this is a case of it being your parent's fault.

........again. :P
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Georgie



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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:22 pm    Post subject:  

Well, I don't want to say anything because it is a delicate subject...

Putting it the wrong way may bring on some trouble.

Or perhaps it is because I'm just too cautious or worried.
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject:  

Hey, no problem. It's you that has to live with them for a number of years more. :wink:


Tell your folks I said hi. :P
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Georgie



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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:25 pm    Post subject:  

Ah, maybe I can put up an e-mail account for an unidentified Pete Cellini :P , my side kick

I don't know if the average free email systems discriminate between fiction and live people. Besides, you don't have to pay for the service and they don't ask for something in return.

Now someone had invited me to open up a Gmail account less than a week ago. At the bottom the form said,

By registering for the Gmail service, I represent and warrant that I (or, if I am under 18, my legal guardian).....

That clause makes me somewhat worried...


and something else. Why does this thread have a little red thing attached to it on the menu list?
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:03 pm    Post subject:  

Forget the freebee email services. They cause more grief than give help.

Hey, you're a young teen. It's supposed to be difficult to avoid your parents' watchful eye. It's there for a good reason.

I'm 43 year old former Marine 200 pound male. While some of my old girlfriends might disagree, I don't need much supervisory protection. People find it difficult to take advantage of me. They go after much easier targets.

Like 13 year old kids........

Sure, pushing against your boundaries is part of growing up, but so is learning the grace and patience to accept things that really shouldn't be tampered with in order to keep you safe. That's why it's called "growing up" because it doesn't happen overnight.

We may have some adult fun and games here Georgie, but we certainly do not want anything to happen to our young members. We want you to stay safe and use this place as a way to gently guide yourself into adulthood by using reasoned thought. If nothing else, I pride this site on it's intellectual strength. And the simple wisdom states that young teens shouldn't take grave risks online.

I realize you may be reluctant to ask your parents to expand your boundaries, but that is also part of growing up. You have to make your case with them in a well reasoned fashion. They still may refuse, but taking defeat with grace is also part of earning trust with them. They can only say no so many times when you have the logic on your side.

As a final thought, don't be in such a big rush to get adult freedoms. They usually come with adult responsibilities that totally ruin the fun of the freedoms.

Be a kid. Trust me, you will miss that when you get older.
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