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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Attend a Tea Party!  

April 15 at your closest city hall.

http://www.teapartyday.com/

If one isn't already organized in your area then go organize it!

Tell your boss you need a gone-fishing day that Wednesday. Hell, tell him you need to finish and mail your taxes that day. You can hit the rally on the way to your post office.


What?!! You already did your taxes? Why? For a refund? Why the heck are you giving Uncle Sugar an interest free loan? Can't you save money on your own initiative?

You should be giving the government the smallest legal amount of tax payments out of your wages and saving your expected final tax payment in a low interest savings account. You might only make a few bucks but that's better than the government is offering and it's a good life habit to know how to control your money, investments, and debt burden.


Anywho, let Washington know you are tired of their pork barrel Beltway spending habits. So what if you are the only guy standing in the April rains outside your rural city hall holding a soggy placard? The Founding Fathers will still smile down on you and you will be honoring their memory. Think of it as starting an overdue national holiday all by yourself. But I think most of you will be surprised at the grass roots response if your hometown has any decent size at all.

Let's get the liberally biased media doing our bidding to illuminate our disgust at all this social largess that is hamstringing hard working Americans.
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject:  

Thousands rally with 'tea parties' on tax day

FRANKFORT, Ky. – Whipped up by conservative commentators and bloggers, tens of thousands of protesters staged "tea parties" around the country Wednesday to tap into the collective angst stirred up by a bad economy, government spending and bailouts. The rallies were directed at President Barack Obama's new administration on a symbolic day: the deadline to file income taxes. Protesters even threw what appeared to be a box of tea bags toward the White House, causing a brief lockdown at the compound.

Shouts rang out from Kentucky, which just passed tax increases on cigarettes and alcohol, to Salt Lake City, where many in the crowd booed Republican Gov. Jon Huntsman for accepting about $1.5 billion in stimulus money.

"Frankly, I'm mad as hell," said businessman Doug Burnett at a rally at the Iowa Capitol, where many of the about 1,000 people wore red shirts declaring "revolution is brewing." Burnett added: "This country has been on a spending spree for decades, a spending spree we can't afford."

In Boston, a few hundred protesters gathered on the Boston Common — a short distance from the original Tea Party — some dressed in Revolutionary garb and carrying signs that said "Barney Frank, Bernie Madoff: And the Difference Is?" and "D.C.: District of Communism."

In Atlanta, thousands of people were expected to gather on the steps of the Capitol, where Fox News Channel conservative pundit Sean Hannity was set to broadcast his show Wednesday night.

The tea parties were promoted by FreedomWorks, a conservative nonprofit advocacy group based in Washington and led by former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey of Texas, who is now a lobbyist.

Organizers said the movement developed organically through online social networking sites such as Facebook and Twitter and through exposure on Fox News.

While FreedomWorks insisted the rallies were nonpartisan, they have been seized on by many prominent Republicans who view them as a promising way for the party to reclaim its momentum.

"All you have to be is a mildly awake Republican candidate for office to get in front of that parade," said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform.

The movement attracted some Republicans considering 2012 presidential bids.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich planned to address a tea party in a New York City park Wednesday night. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal sent an e-mail to his supporters, letting them know about tea parties throughout the state. South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford planned to attend two tea parties.

"There is no such thing as so-called free money and that includes stimulus," Sanford told several thousand people outside the statehouse in Columbia, S.C. "Paying down debt is an old American theme and never a bad thing."

There were several small counter-protests, including one that drew about a dozen people at Fountain Square in Cincinnati. A counter-protester held a sign that read, "Where were you when Bush was spending billions a month 'liberating' Iraq?" The anti-tax demonstration there, meanwhile, drew about 4,000 people.

In Lansing, Mich., outside the state Capitol, another 4,000 people waved signs exclaiming "Stop the Fiscal Madness," "Read My Lipstick! No More Bailouts" and "The Pirates Are in D.C." Children held makeshift signs complaining about the rising debt.

"I'm really opposed to spending the way out of our problem," said Deborah Mourray, 56, a business administrator from the Detroit suburb of Troy. "How I run my home is: I don't spend more money so my situation improves. Save and conserve."

In Salt Lake City, where more than 1,000 protesters gathered outside a downtown federal building in the rain and snow, Kate Maloney held a cardboard sign that read "Pin the tail on the jacka$$", with a picture of Obama on a Democratic donkey.

"I want to get back my way of life again," said Maloney, who runs a small costume business and said she's recently had to lay off 10 of 33 workers. "Right now things change too much."

Other protesters also took direct aim at Obama. One sign in the crowd in Madison, Wis., compared him to the anti-Christ. At a rally in Montgomery, Ala., where Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It" blared from loudspeakers, Jim Adams of Selma carried a sign that showed the president with Hitler-style hair and mustache and said, "Sieg Heil Herr Obama."

Still others talked of their children's futures. In Washington, D.C., Joe Hollinger said he took the day off to attend the protest with his 11-year-old daughter.

"I'm concerned about the incredible amount of debt Congress is going to put on our children," Hollinger said, pointing to his daughter's sign, which read, "Congress get your hand off my piggy bank."

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http://taxdayteaparty.com/

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CharlieBrown



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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:48 am    Post subject:  

I went to a Cubs game that day and the train was packed full of drunken idiots going to see the game and old people complaining about their taxes.
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject:  

Baseball may claim to be America's sport, but politics were the real sport long before Abner Doubleday got bored looking for something to entertain himself with.
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bannie



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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:27 am    Post subject:  

CharlieBrown wrote: I went to a Cubs game that day and the train was packed full of drunken idiots going to see the game and old people complaining about their taxes.

That sums up my attitude precisely


Maybe it's because I'm making squat, and will continue to make squat so in increase in taxes won't take too much more out or maybe it's because when I was in high school the elderly voting block shot down a tax designed to repair the high school and one middle school, while building a new middle school replacing one that is still over capacity. Instead, I had to walk around a leaking ceiling on the second floor (Mind you, there are three floors in that building) and they had to divide up the lunch room in the middle school to add class rooms to support the load.

Or maybe it's because I can't get behind causes where the most vocal supporters are Donald Trump and Rush Limbaugh
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CharlieBrown



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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject:  

JuntaJoe wrote: Baseball may claim to be America's sport, but politics were the real sport long before Abner Doubleday got bored looking for something to entertain himself with.

Nowhere on my voter registration form did it have a warning of the very likely possibility of getting screwed, unlike the back of a stadium ticket warning about foul balls and broken batts.
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:22 am    Post subject:  

LOL! Yeah, those things need a serious disclaimer on them, don't they?

I also wish I could afford more than a nosebleed section ticket too! :lol:
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CharlieBrown



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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject:  

Doesn't help that both the Astros (what the hell is an Astro anyway?) and the Texans suck!
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:09 pm    Post subject:  

Astronaut or a dog that George Jetson owns. ;)


Want to see how the left disparages the tea parties?

Wait the few minutes until MSNBC brings out Garofalo.


http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/16/garofalo-outdoes-herself-tea-parties-all-about-white-power-says-d-lister/

She calls the whole thing a racist push against Obama. Racist? C'mon! MSNBC isn't even trying to maintain the thin facade they are neutral anymore!
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NibbyCat



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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:05 pm    Post subject:  

I consider myself to be liberal, I certainly don't wish to be associated with the Religious Reich, and I don't agree with what The Light Bringer™ is bringing on a national level. His foreign policies and handling of the Somali pirates do impress me.
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject:  

Being conservative doesn't make you even remotely part of the Fundies sect. That's just more polarization rhetoric spread by the extreme elements on both sides to ensure an us versus them situation.

I'm giving Obama an Incomplete grade on his foreign policy agenda. I'm not liking the drift, but I'll give him time to make his play before taking it to task.

Letting the Seals shoot the pirates was good, but he still hasn't gone forward enough to deal with the bigger pirate situation.

Imo, Letters of Marque should make a comeback. Issue them to private Somali pirate hunters for fun and profit. If it does the job then perhaps expand the concept to the Filipino and Indonesian pirate regions as well. Maybe even issue them for South American drug boat hunting too.



Back to the Garafolo interview, it's not what she said. Her past is well known. But it was MSNBC airing it and not even challenging it one bit. Garafolo isn't a recognized policy or psychological specialist. She has no medical degree to make official judgments on state of mind or does she have years as professional government or political analysis. No one has ever paid her a nickel to run a political campaign. She's just a washed up actress trying to keep her name in the news by doing political hack jobs.

Has anyone ever seen Clint Eastwood talk politics? He's openly said he leans left. Doesn't bother me a bit. He took on a mayor's job and experienced executive pressure. Openly said that kind of work is a bitch and was happy to be done with it. He's also far more circumspect in his political delivery too. Respectful of the opposite side. He'll state his position if pressed, but doesn't go hunting for a microphone to wail on every chance he gets.

Paul Newman? Robert Redford? Yep, lefties too. But I didn't care. They worked their agendas with enterprise, creativity, and capitalism. Discretion and class too.

Even that bastard George Soros I have to give grudging respect to since he ponies up his fairly earned money.

Garafolo? She just tries to trade on faded acting celebrity to screech her crap. She's the lowest of the low. No better than a washed up Klansman marching in a parade of a dozen through a backwoods town to entice the cameras.

So where does NBC get off trying to proclaim themselves serious journalists by dragging her out for what they had to know what she would do?

Good gravy! I'd pay big money to watch her debate Micheal Savage. He's a bit extreme for me, but he's sharp as a tack and would leave her ashes on the podium when he exited the building.
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NibbyCat



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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject:  

I wonder if they're working on the hope that if they give her enough rope, she'll hang herself. I mean, if they cut off any of the loonies too soon, more people will think that the loony has a point. But when the full looniness is allowed to be exposed, people will almost go the other way just to avoid being associated with the loons.

Let the loons discredit themselves.
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject:  

I could see another news group trying that, but not MSNBC. Their fiction of impartiality is one of the thinnest out there. Then you have the fact that it wasn't really an interview in the traditional sense. They didn't go to her location to get her noise. She was invited to their site and presented in the "pro commentator" format like she was some expert. Nor was a rebuttal commentator presented. MSNBC was bringing her in to soapbox in a news commentary show without any barriers or opposition.

In essence they gave her their studio and implicit endorsement of her qualifications as an "expert". They didn't have to actually say they stood behind her opinion. They had already given it when they didn't challenge her or bring in an alternate viewpoint.
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NibbyCat



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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:09 pm    Post subject:  

Hmmm... But then, Faux Noise does the same, for the other side, so it works out in the end.
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:25 am    Post subject:  

Sure, Fox is slanted, but they never get that bad.

Remember that Fox right from the beginning was hard labeled as pandering to the right. So they know they have to add the "balance" to maintain credible journalistic integrity. Just like CNN has conservative news magazine hosts to CYA their end or expose themselves for the liberal outfit they are.

We all know both CNN and Fox pander to a certain side, but they both still pay lip service to the neutral facade.

No, they aren't near as good as the guys at The News Hour. Not even close. You'd never be able to tell which side of the fence Jim Lehrer sits on. Or take Ted Koppel. When he quit Nightline he told of how he hated being neutral when he was a liberal. But he did it anyway and I watched him for decades. His facade began to slip just a little bit at the end, but overall he held up the bargain that a true journalist's job is to bring basic facts and then give as many potential opinions about it as possible.

Hell, even the 60 Minutes crew does a better job than NBC and they have been busted for trying to bring false witness against the right.

NBC news just doesn't even care anymore. They have become a propaganda machine that sprinkles in news they grab off the wires.

You would think it was because they are riding the gravy train. Yet the NBC network would have to shut its doors without Jay Leno and the Law and Order franchise. Heroes might be rocking, but it has all the underpinnings that Smallville had. Give it another year or so and it will go flat. Why do you think they are moving Leno to primetime? Anything to grab market share. Lord knows what they had to offer to Leno to hang around a couple more years.

But a good news team will get people to flip the channel and segue into the primetime shows. NBC is shooting itself in the foot because it hates the idea of journalistic fairness. Can't wait until Murdock finally charges their ramparts in a hostile takeover. Well, the FCC will block him directly, but he'll get a front group to nab it once they lose Leno. Yep, Leno's fat contract is why no one will buy them. No one wants that albatross ironclad payout.
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CharlieBrown



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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:48 am    Post subject:  

JuntaJoe wrote: Sure, Fox is slanted, but they never get that bad.



I don't do this very often but...lol.
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:36 pm    Post subject:  

Really, CB, they don't. I'm not talking about partisanship here. I'm talking about how far they are willing to take it.

Fox leans right. Everyone knows it. But they do pay due diligence to balance, even if they don't like it. Same goes for CNN on the left. Or CBS for that matter. ABC offers up rebuttals and John Stossel.

NBC doesn't even bother. They are fully committed to pushing their propaganda view as opposed to presenting an impartial viewpoint, as is expected of broadcast news organizations.


CB, at some point you have to accept that those who share your viewpoint have abandoned trying to be credible in their impartiality. I accept that Fox leans right. I accept that most talk radio hosts lean right. Most of them openly admit they aren't proper newsmen. They admit they are commentators and entertainers who push only their side. I think I've heard almost all of them be up front about their flag waving.

Integrity and honesty. NBC still tries to wear the veil of impartial news reporting instead of just coming out and saying they are not impartial anymore. When you trot out someone like Garafolo and don't try to challenge her extreme views then all you did was carry her water for her.

So then you have to ask yourself if all you are doing is getting the slanted viewpoint. Sure, I'll listen to talk radio occasionally and catch Fox News infrequently. But I also know that when I do I'm not really getting the straight news. The reason I preach about news wires is I know that listening to either side robs me of the ability to decide for myself what really happened.
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CharlieBrown



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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:29 pm    Post subject:  

Fema concentration camps. That is all I'm going to say.
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broomdalf



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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject:  

Really, that's all you have to say.
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:22 am    Post subject:  

That doesn't make your point, CB. All of the networks have rolled out something loony at some point or another. It's a matter of how much they endorse it and how much rebuttal they include. If Fox made mention of that urban legend then did they go ask FEMA to respond?

That's what is called balance.

Did MSNBC challenge Garafolo or let in another viewpoint from another commentator?

No.

Even ABC and CBS put in some counterpoint when they did full scale assaults on the 2nd Amendment a week ago.


Btw, that FEMA urban legend was started by the left actually immediately after Katrina on the first disaster roll out after the DHS consolidation. CBS, NBC, CNN, and ABC were all squawking that those emergency camps were a plot to rid New Orleans of black people. Hell, the day those ungrateful bastards rolled off the buses into Houston they were calling for Bush to be beheaded because he caused the hurricane, let New Orleans get trashed, and shipped them all out. Then they proceeded to park on their asses for two years here in free housing and federal welfare checks, while doubling our crime rate in the process. We had to shoot a couple dozen, jail a couple hundred, send some more to Texas death row, evict them into the street, and eventually throw them on buses and send them back to NOLA. All the while they were chanting that Bush done them wrong.

There is your true source of that myth. Not Fox. The lefty broadcast outfits pandering to the "oppressed". :roll:
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