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Batchman



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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Radio Show hosts  

Why not a place to discuss the politics of radio show hosts (most of them do have heavy political overtones, so I am putting this here, rather than in the media section)?

Discussions on some of these should bring out some strong opinions.

Rush Limbaugh: Pompus and opinionated, he is very frequently right, but he is so insufferably obnoxious about it that even when he has the right beliefs, you still want to pop him one for it!

I also hate the way sometimes he will make comments that are quite simply wrong in a factual sense, yet refuses to ever admit he has misspoken, or made a mistake.

Sean Hannity: Again, very bright, very well-thought-out opinions that are usually wise. Used to be much more balanced and more fair to his guests and callers than Rush, but these days, seems to be becoming more like Rush all the time.

Howard Stern: A mentally messed up freak-job who I will not waste my time listening to.

Art Bell: Strange, warped, and highly entertaining. Enough said.

Glenn Beck: Currently my favorate talk show. Very entertaining, mostly conservative, a lot of humor, and Glenn doesn't take himself too seriously!
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Eddy



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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:12 am    Post subject:  

I will only comment on two of them since they are the only ones I have heard.

Rush Limbaugh - I think the man is a good example of an entertainer. He has his right wing views, but to be honest, I get the impression he plays it up for his audience a lot and he uses showmanship quite well to achieve his objective which is to have listeners. I do not take him as a serious political pundit, but merely as an entertainer.

Howard Stern - A pig plain and simple. He is another good example of an entertainer, granted, but he is only appealing to the lower classes who find that sort of humor amusing. Needless to say, I do not.
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:44 am    Post subject:  

You forgot the weirdest of them all.

Michael Savage.

Way, way out there. Makes Pat Robertson look live a limp wristed liberal.

But he really hits a chord sometimes. I think it's because he doesn't feel tied to any political platform. He's just an extremist Libertarian. And Libertarians sometimes hit that populist note that appeals even if you don't like his politics.

He's worth listening to even when you disagree with him most of the time.


I happen to like our local talk radio show hosts the best. All are cut from the Glenn Beck mold and he even is friends with most of them even though Glenn resides a long way away. Glenn likes our team so much that he's subbed for the local guys when they go on vacation. He'll do his national show and then pull a second shift for the local team here. I guess they just patch him in via satellite. He's very up-to-date on Houston local stuff even though he's from Philly (I think). Lots of times he'll just patch into the local show and co-host with the local crew too. That happens a couple times a month. Needless to say, we all love his unusual patronage of Houston.

I think Hannity went away from his old ways when Fox gave him a tv spot. Pressure for sensationalism probably cut the restraints of sensibility.

I don't listen to Rush much anymore, but give the man his due. He essentially created this whole talk radio phenomenon. And he is more than upfront about his role. He calls it an insult to be called a newsman. He'd gladly accept the title of entertainer instead, in his own words. He knows talk radio is biased and admits it freely. It's an alternate viewpoint on the news and not news itself.

That's what galls me about most tv and print news. They are biased and won't admit it.

The average person doesn't know they are getting slanted stuff when all they want to know is what's going on around them.

If every news outlet freely admitted their bias then John Q. Public would realize he hasn't recieved the complete picture.

Then they might gather their news more carefully. I listen to talk radio for my right oriented slant. Then I catch Charlie Rose and Tavis Smiley on PBS for my left oriented slant. Next I hit the Chicago Tribune for centrist theory. Finally, I monitor financial news and the Associated Press for bald facts.

I take all that together and decide where the truth lies and what my opinion of the news is.


I highly recommend every one of you use my example for a week or two and see how you see world events after that.

Catch an hour or two of talk radio in the afternoons at work and the drive home. Get home and fire up the tv and computer. Scan the AP and Chicago Tribune while grabbing an hour of financial news on tv. When you roll into bed, turn on PBS for Charlie and Tavis. Like me, you can do other stuff at the same time so as to not sink several hours every day into just news/opinion gathering. I read, play on the pc, cook, or do work at the same time. I just let my information gathering become a backtrack for my mind while taking care of the rest of my life.
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Batchman



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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:53 am    Post subject:  

I've only heard Savage one time ... for about ten minutes last night.

He wanted to bring back Roman punishments and dump the lady who drowned her kids into a sack with a dog, a rooster, a snake and a pig, and throw her into a river.

Who knows ... I may listen to some more of him, sometime.

Glenn is just tremendous fun! I love listening to Moron Trivia ... I always know all the answers, and the idiots are so far away from them ... then he gives them the supposedly correct answers, and they are even more absurd than what the people answered, yet they accept them!

His show is just so wonderfully warped, twisted and fun, but in a harmless way, if you can understand what I mean by that!
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NibbyCat



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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:19 am    Post subject:  

One that I listened to now and then was G. Gordon Liddy. It was only because my car radio got only 3 stations: A country station, a Christian station and the talk station. I figured it was better to hear what the other side had to say.

Anyhow, he had some good points and I didn't hear him get abusive to the liberals.
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Che



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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:24 am    Post subject:  

I do not listen to talk-radio... I find it boring and demeaning.

I can only comment on two of the personalities mentioned:

1. Rush --- a drug addict in denial and a sick individual who verbally abused a young girl (Chelsea Clinton) on national radio

2. Howard --- a creep, but he does make me laugh
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject:  

Whatever you think about talk radio, you need to remember that ignoring one side means you get slanted information.

I don't find watching Charlie and Tavis parade lefty screamers around very entertaining, but I watch anyway.

One of them occasionally quiets down and politely says something that the right should pay attention to.

If it makes sense to both sides then we had better heed the wisdom, right?

And it you are not listening to the other side then you won't hear those occasional critical points.
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estio



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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:13 am    Post subject:  

Glenn Beck is the most amusing of any talk show I listen to. Rather than be focused on politics, he is humor centered and just happens to discuss politics at times. As Batch said, he doesn't take himself too seriously, but he is hilarious.

Rush - love the name. Like the guy. Tolerate the show. He is almost as pompous and arrogant as the people who insult him for his ideas without ever discrediting them.

Hannity - too righteously newsy. Opinion radio doesn't need to be balanced.

Savage - Woooo! An angry man trapped in California and terrified of immigrants. He is often insightful but the most arrogant of any chatterbox.

Another one that you might run across is a psycho chick from right here in Spokaloo. Laurie Roth. She's a high pitched right wing bible thumping whiner that will make you want to scrape nails on the chalkboard, just to cover her shrill voice.

You have been warned.
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jimmyreb



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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 3:26 am    Post subject:  

Glenn Beck is a moron... I can not stand his lame childish antics... grr

G Gordan Liddy, lol he is interesting, been forever since I've heard him.

Michael Savage, I've heard him compared to Rush... hes a lot more sincere than like Beck for example... I don't know if he has the kind of genius that Rush has but hes not a dope.

Rush Limbaugh, I don't like to listen to him that much, but pretty much agree with him on almost every topic, and his views are very insightful. I'm not sure what happened with him and Chelsea, but unless it was absolutly insulting and out of line, I really don't have a lot of sympathy for that family. And the pain-killer thing, I'm not sure how we can say Clinton had the right to have an affair (not saying anyone here says that) and then turn around and tell someone in the private sector, that they can't get addicted to pain-killers... wrong as it is, its just a ploy by liberals to discredit the only media source that they can't control: talk radio. Don't get me wrong, I was dissapointed when I found out about his problem... but it shouldn't effect our oppinion of him as a talk show host... if any of the other hosts were half as good as he is, we'd being hearing all sorts of scandals I'm sure. I'm sure than any of us who have been around for a while have been addicted to something at least at one time in our life, its not the end of the world.
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DrJoshuaFalken



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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:25 am    Post subject:  

I like Michael Savage's style, he tells it like it is. Plus the bumper music is the best in radio.
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Batchman



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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:52 am    Post subject:  

jimmyreb wrote: Glenn Beck is a moron... I can not stand his lame childish antics... grr.

Seek help! Seek help immediately!

Glenn is hillarious! (Though it does sometimes take a while of listening to him before you start to get him!).

I love the phone call he recently received from God in reference to all the odd weather we've been having, recently ... "Its all detailed in this book called Revelations."

"You mean ..."

"Well, let's just say, if you're getting a loan, you may as well get it for 30 years, and use the rest of your money elsewhere."

"Oh my god!"

"Yes?"

"No, I meant ... I just ..."

"I'm just messing with you."

I can't do it complete justice from memory, but it was freaking hillarious!
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jimmyreb



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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:59 pm    Post subject:  

sounds like it. :roll:
sounds like he needs help. :P
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JuntaJoe



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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject:  

Just goes to show we all have differing tastes on talk radio even when we like it.

I'm just happy that we are not all a bunch of synchophants about it.

We all might like the idea of the conservatives having their own outlets, but we all have our own view of what's good.
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Batchman



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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:31 pm    Post subject:  

And there goes Joe, smoothing things over!

Come on, Joe! Fan the fires! Be devisive!

Threaten to beat us up if we don't prefer your radio host!

Sheesh! There went all my fun!
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jimmyreb



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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject:  

I can beat you up if you want me to... or I could just get Eddy to paddle you.
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Eddy



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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 3:19 pm    Post subject:  

Yeah some debate forum this is. All polite reasoned debate. I want flaming! I want namecalling! I want mention of Hitler in every thread! I want to paddle people. You'll excuse me while I go make some green tea and scones for myself now.
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jimmyreb



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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 3:27 pm    Post subject:  

Ahh yes good old Hitler, his very name makes the moderators quiver with fear. :twisted: :lol:
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Maus



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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject:  

Noooo, remember the ancient debate rule: whoever makes the first comparison to Hitler, automatically loses.

Let's just compare the Mods to, uhhh, "Post-Weimar Germany".
8)
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jimmyreb



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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject:  

oh goody, yes lets. :)

does this mean we lose? :?
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Che



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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject:  

Bah, still to namby-pamby... the mods all like French Cubism :shock:
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